01:27:12 Dimitris Konstantakopoulos: Darwis, are you sure those states are going to exist after 2032? 01:27:26 Bruno Drweski: good question ? 01:27:44 Harry-Pascal Bannais: Why after 20 01:27:49 Harry-Pascal Bannais: 22032 ? 01:27:58 Harry-Pascal Bannais: 2032 ? sorry 01:28:10 Isaac Bazié: This question could be part of your presentations/insights 01:28:15 Dimitris Konstantakopoulos: By intuition 01:28:26 Harry-Pascal Bannais: ok ok 01:28:49 Dimitris Konstantakopoulos: And also because of the precipitation of all processes heading to a climax 01:37:49 Harry-Pascal Bannais: Thank you Darwis ; I liked your astronomic and poetic metaphores Galaxy vs Constellation ! 02:03:38 Yoshiko Kurita: Thank you, Prof. Yin, for your excellent presentation. 02:04:32 Harry-Pascal Bannais: Thank you indeed, Pr Yin 02:04:39 Connie Bakrie: Very good presentation Prof. Yin.... 02:04:45 Zhiguang Yin: Thank you very much for the solidarity spirit! Long live the people's solidarity 02:14:57 Yoshiko Kurita: Thank you ! 02:15:40 Harry-Pascal Bannais: Thank you for your contribution to the debate 02:35:41 Yoshiko Kurita: Prof. Elena, thank you very much for your presentation. In your opinion, what should we do to stop this war?... 02:47:11 Annamaria Artner: Climate change is already irreverseble 02:54:15 Elena Veduta: We should explain people a vital need for the organization of the 3rd world war. The exit is to change the world order. We need new system of managing the global economy. It is important to organize a Scientific and Practical Center responsible for the introduction and improvement of AI in the economy. This Center should ideologically and practically oppose all the thinking tanks of the West, train new personnel and introduce AI into the economy, ensuring countries get out of the global crisis. 02:57:42 Yoshiko Kurita: Thank you, Dimitris. I believe "to stop arming Ukraine" is a very important point. The shipment of weapons to warring countries is a very serious problem. Only military industries will be so pleased. 03:20:08 Yoshiko Kurita: I believe an important point which should be addressed is : How do we eseem the role of international law ? It is true that the present crisis might have been caused by the policy of the US and the NATO, but was President Putin's decision to go to war ( against international law & UN charter) a wise one? Is Russia not damaging its own national interests in this way? 03:31:24 Gracjan Cimek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ea5ElbiFRU It is worth to note the words of deputy governor of the Kherson region which highlught three ideas of Che Gevaura , Gandhi and finally slavic ideas based on justice as basic value 03:49:17 Yoshiko Kurita: Dear Bruno, do you really think "balance of power" is changing in favor of the weak nations?....I have a feeling that the Russian-Ukraine war has a rather conter-productive effect, and it is used by the West as a pretext to destroy Russia and the other BRICS nations. 03:55:43 Bruno Drweski: I think that this war is a bad thing as every war but it makes things clearer all over the world. It pushes european opinions toward USA/NATO for the moment but the histeria and irrationality of most of the western medias are now creating counter effects. The third world medias are discovering western fake news fabrications …So, basically, I think that the tide is changing on the long term, even if on the short term, the western mobilisation around USA/NATO looks more solid than three month ago. Basically what is changing is the dedollarisation process linked also with the decay of euro …and EU economies. 03:55:56 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: 1.Is the Bandung Spirit still relevant in global dynamic international relationship now days? 03:56:47 Bruno Drweski: it is the road toward multipolarity and to a certain extent toward deglobalization 03:57:15 Bruno Drweski: from globalization toward a win-win world order 03:57:42 Gracjan Cimek: 👏 03:58:02 Myrianne Coen: Listening, seems on its way to be abandoned. Rather preoccupying. 03:58:09 Yoshiko Kurita: Thank you, Bruno,for your convincing answer ! 03:59:46 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: 2. Is it true that PRC can play to be a balancing power in international relationship? What about the PRC claim over south China Sea under 9 dashes lines? I think it is not based on Bandung Spirit because the impact of its make the condition in South East Asian not conducive anymore . 04:03:55 Yoshiko Kurita: That "unilaternal sanctions are in violation of international law" is a very important point. We should spread this idea. Thank you, Prof. Koechler. 04:04:22 Annamaria Artner: Great, thank you, Mr Koechler! 04:05:28 Yoshiko Kurita: Sorry, I must go. Thank you for your excellent presentaions. (Yoshiko Kurita from Japan) 04:09:11 Myrianne Coen: Prof Koechler did underline international law. Would Bandung principles have been applied to Russia also by BRICS and NAM,, probably, international law in the field of economy would not have been violated. Both are failure of the United Nations, indeed, thus to be reformed. 04:16:47 Bruno Drweski: When I speak about irraltionality, I am not thinking about the cynical rationality off the « decaying" elites, I am talking about for example european elites and intellectual groups that are objectively acting their own interests, a individual, as a social class, as a national economy. European elites especially are accepting to submit to the USA against their own interest. What means in my view they are irrational as did for example nazis at the end of the second world war when they were objectively working against German interestes and their own individual and class ones. 04:17:17 Bruno Drweski: …against their own interests. 04:18:55 Zhiguang Yin: To Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto. regarding the 9 dash line, an interesting historical context is that it was 11 dash line as claimed by the ROC (Taiwan) in 1947. It was then reduced to 9 dash line by Zhou Enlai in the PRC after dialogues with the south east Asian nations 04:19:34 Zhiguang Yin: in general, negotiation and dialogue seem to be the only way forward rather than saying accusation. :) 04:20:34 Zhiguang Yin: also, regarding UN and NAM, I believe general assembly and NAM summit should and would be more useful platform 04:22:11 Connie Bakrie: Therefore to cut all source of dialogue and especially diplomats is a very wrong way... 04:22:56 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: Well Prof Yin, referring to the judgement of Permanent Arbitration court after the Phillipines bring this case, it can be said that it is conflicting with UNCLOS. What do you think about it? 04:23:16 Zhiguang Yin: regarding balance of power, I think the fundamental problem is that as a theoretical framework, it lacks in necessary empirical evidence to be considered as a viable universal model to understand global reality. it is, more or less, is an illusion. 04:24:28 Zhiguang Yin: interestingly, what the UNCLOS verdict did not resolve, bilateral negotiation between china and philipines did. :) 04:25:55 Zhiguang Yin: also, I think on the line of reform needed for existing international institutions, the problem of IL is also part of the discussion as its tendency to be in favour of existing hegemon. 04:26:58 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: According Indonesia UUNCLOS is very important. The application of that treaty is become the International Law standart. I think it is become the obligation of states parties for respecting the treaty in good faith. 04:28:24 Zhiguang Yin: formalist approach to IL does not seem to have resolved anything. Think about Afro-Asian conference. The creation of Afro-Asian solidarity movement does not fall into the then existing IL frameworks at all. Afro-Asian solidarity movement is in fact, if we need to adopt the IL language, an 'constitutional moment'. political initiative creates law, rather than the other way around. 04:30:20 Zhiguang Yin: IL framework is indeed very important. however, very few empirical evidence suggests that IL could regulate hegemonic actions. Therefore, political initiatives should be equally valued. 04:31:56 Zhiguang Yin: So, as Mao Zedong once said, if China became a new hegemon, we should all unite and start a revolution against it. 04:32:57 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: I think that is a subjective perspective. 04:33:33 Annamaria Artner: BRICS must expand 04:33:44 Zhiguang Yin: In fact, this is a shared perspective from Marxist IL, critical IL, and Third World Approach to IL 04:34:09 Zhiguang Yin: what about the role of the Group of 77? 04:36:03 Annamaria Artner: that's why military matters! 04:36:31 Yasuhiro Tanaka: Japan AALA thanks a lot for wonderful presentations.We share your expactation for NAM and BRICS to play more active role to prevent catastrofic qorld nuclear war and economic desaster. 04:37:09 Isaac Bazié: https://bandungspirit.org/IMG/pdf/rethinking-revolution-af-090422_cover-2.pdf 04:37:40 Annamaria Artner: Thank you for everybody! 04:37:46 Harry-Pascal Bannais: Thank you to all participants and contributors. May all of you spend a peaceful sunny Sunday 04:37:49 Zhiguang Yin: thank you very much to all! 04:37:50 Bruno Drweski: thank you all. It was great ! 04:37:57 Annamaria Artner: Thanks to Darwis and Isaac! 04:37:58 Gracjan Cimek: thank You! 04:39:35 Gregorius Sri Nurhartanto: Thank you very much for all presenters.